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Why the government’s fetish for foreigners is not a matter of numbers

Posted by inspir3d on August 29, 2006

The government is resorting to foreigners because it has lost faith in the competency of Singaporeans

People cried foul when, on his customary annual bore-speech, prime minister Lee Hsien Loong effectively blamed the government’s increased efforts to attract ‘foreign talent’ on Singaporeans’ lack of interest in conceiving children, a situation instantly understandable ten minutes into a visit of one of Singapore’s dilapidated national libraries on a Sunday afternoon.” …more (Twilight)

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37 Responses to “Why the government’s fetish for foreigners is not a matter of numbers”

  1. Harphoon said

    There are times when people will do the reverse of what standard economics expects:

    “maximize on opportunities to gain an advantage or benefit.” Krugman.

    We all know tobacco and defense firms pay out great dividends, but many of us may not wish to invest in their stocks because we consider their vision and the things they produce morally reprehensible.

    The same can be said of the phenomenon of downshifting, where troves of people consciously make a decision to work and earn less with the payout of more time to pursue the things they really want to do.

    A cursory review may suggest this emerging group of post modernist realist are simply downright lazy and lack the verve to compete, but I am not all together quite sure about this perfunctory explanation.

    For one most of them seem to have a reasonably coherent philosophy as to why they have chosen to live their life in such terms which they claim to be truly their “own” – some will say these downshifters are usually found in the class of the less educated where years of living below the subsistence level has perhaps dampened their enthusiasm, since they can no longer see the valence between performance and reward.

    I disagree, as the term implies, downshifting is a top down process, so most of the downshifters are actually the most highly educated people with the greatest potential to contribute to the local economy.

    Neither are they forced to downshift, I don’t dispute many may fall into this category by default because they simply don’t have a choice, but this doesn’t preclude the fact, there are also those who consciously choose to downshift for no other reason other than the perceived advantages of doing so, more time and less stress an opportunity to perhaps reclaim that part of their life’s which once leached away.

    Already in Singapore, we are beginning to see the ravages of a frenetic professional lifestyle – lawyers no longer want to work in the legal profession, simply because the working conditions leaches out everything about life that is worth living for.

    The result the government is instituting a force feed program to re-supply the market with lawyers. It goes to show one thing, people are more complicated than you think and they are not easily reduced into numbers.

    The same goes for the scientific community, where there is so much back biting, I even know of a brilliant scientist who simply wants to be left alone tinkering on virtual constructs such as ray guns, time travel machines and space stations because he doesn’t feel the need to be part of the rat race.

    And this brings me finally to my point, couples who decide against having babies are simply downshifting.

    For whatever reasons, they no longer see the advantage of raising a family and consider the economics and time penalties too heavy a burden to bear.

    This brings me to a slight digression concerning Mr Wang’s baby vs FT debate which my friend Darkness mentioned was flawed because it assumes the economic value of babies can be considered in isolation mutually exclusively from their parents.

    They cannot, now you know why babies, toddlers and kids are called dependants – they are like fruits a by product or a larger scheme of things and disregarding the larger picture doesn’t do anything except encourage myopia in the face of the obvious.

    Ridding further on this fruity analogy just as the quantity of fruits is a reliable indicator of the projected yield of an orchard i.e life cycle of productivity cycle divided against hectarage and multiplied against manpower and resource invested to generate an efficiency index.

    Babies like condo’s, car sales and osim massage chairs are undeniably effective barometers of the economic health of a nation – the picture they generated may be corseted masking the real shape of what the thing really is, I admit, but none the less, they all add up to what economist and mathematicians typically refer too as “hierarchal needs indicators” – named after Maslow who first theorized the theory of motivation.

    Economist have long observed, when times are lean, birth rates are usually depressed due to the prevailing mood of uncertainty in an environment of resource scarcity and the reverse is true during periods of buoyancy.

    So in a qualified sense they are reliable indicators.

    Though one may say downshifting is an expression of an individuals right to live his life as he wishes, it is doesn’t alter the fact it’s lousy for the local economy and throws a monkey wrench (sorry atomic monkey) into the wheels of macroeconomics (the science of running the local economy).

    The prospects of this an emerging group of enlightened who see perfect sense in rotating their Bata slippers in three year cycles or downsizing from four rooms to a bedsit may sound quaint, but it’s also bad for business.

    This brings into sharp focus the need to redress this disequilibrium by repopulating the present human pool with FT’s who are the reverse of downshifters – the upwardly mobile.

    Being better educated, they will also command higher salaries and will be less likely to consider babies as time and cost penalties.

    Above all these FT’s are not afflicted by the price we have all paid to carve out a paradise in Singapore – we went soft, we lost our edge.

    Now you know why our government needs them both, FT’s and babies and so do we, even if we may from time to time believe, we don’t – they are indispensable – if we are want to remain relevant in not local and global economy.

    As for the brilliant scientist, I last saw him packing his cheap plastic briefcase, he mentioned something about giving up smoking and drinking and taking up a teaching post in China.

    As he walked down the aisle towards the shiny aeroplane, he paused for a while as though he had seen himself in his minds eye from a distance go out of sight down into one of those warrens in Beijing where so many footpaths crisscrossed.

    Of the countless paths up out of that valley of endless grey walls, one of them might carry a man who was once my best friend, darkness aka the father of game, back into sight, but I realize deep in my heart many would not.

    Get the chronicler to document this BOP.

  2. Atomic Monkey said

    long live the brotherhood! (eagle salute)

  3. twostepsfromtwilight said

    That’s an epic, harphoon. You (indirectly) describe my opinion as “perfunctory” – a typical showboat word – but then you kind of undermine yourself by failing to read my opinion properly. It is “perfunctory”, perhaps, but not in the way you suggest.

    My opinion is very clear cut. The government wants immigration because it achieves the most with the least effort and money. In fact it’s not even an opinion, it’s just a restatement of what should be common sense. And I certainly don’t blame everything on Singaporeans being ‘naturally stupid’ – you know, I explicitly finger blame on the government. Eh, it might be a load of crap, but at least it’s got a grounding in reality.

    I can’t address your opinion – it could very well be your PhD thesis on goldfish, I’ll never guess. And we’re not actually arguing about the same thing, although I am due an apology when you build a straw man argument (“post-modern realist”?!) on a flawed interpretation of my opinion. You value your opinion a little highly, harphoon, and that’s just putting it mildly.

  4. Joseph said

    Actually what I want to know is this: who is this “brotherhood” and why are those trolls popping up so irritatingly now and then?

  5. Harphoon said

    TSFT

    Perhaps…perhaps…only what needs to be done must be done.

    The difference between me and you is simply this – I dont believe the government owes us a living, you do.

    If more FT’s come in so much the better, if we can have babies better still, but I am realist, not the post modernist type, but the hard nosed one who actually believes we cannot afford to go soft and flabby if we expect to stay competitive.

    Good day.

  6. mind warrior said

    “The government wants immigration because it achieves the most with the least effort and money”

    Agreed. Never disputed this point given the set of assumptions, I layed out.

    However pls tell me, why is this statement (see below) then necessary?

    Where may I ask is the connection or disconnect?

    “The government is resorting to foreigners because it has lost faith in the competency of Singaporeans”

    The difference between me and you is simply this.

    I dont see it as a personal decision i.e the govt vs people.

  7. harphoon said

    TSFT,

    “I am due an apology when you build a straw man argument (”post-modern realist”?!)”

    You jumped into the debate without first addressing the most cogent question:

    What is the root cause for declining birth rates?

    You cannot put the horse before the cart – unless this question is answered, how is it possible to even consider the merits of FT’s? Or for that matter even speculate on the strategy the government is likely to deploy?

    This was the same error Mr Wang made.

    If you wish to prove the point the government is adopting a strategy of convenience (path of least resistance) i.e FT’s offer the highest economic leverage vs babies offer none –

    then I cant understand how you can proceed without first gaining an intimacy with the causation of the declining birthrates.

    The nature of how big or small the problem is – determines the entire line of logic as to whether this is actually an easily resolvable problem. Or perhas very complex issue which cannot be resolved – in the short term at least.

    Appreciating the causal effects of declining birthrates allows the reader to grasp the dimension of the real problem for what it is rather than what you think it is (but in this case you never bothered to even postulate on this issue, as I said, you jumped into the debate without setting the parameters of what actually constitutes the key issues i.e the nature of the problem)i.e downshifting is a conscious decision and this was why darkness cited diminishing returns i.e the government cannot easily change the minds of downshifters, they may try but they will simply fail.Given this to be the case, the best case trade off analysis would suggest only one option – intake of FT’s.

    Now you understand how ludicrous it is for you to insist on an apology.

  8. twostepsfromtwilight said

    “What is the root cause for declining birth rates?”

    There’s a good reason why I insist on avoiding the numbers: because I believe a simpler explanation exists. If you want bombastic, epic treatises about population, well, you’re not getting one here. Don’t insist that I do that.

    It’s funny how everyone explains away talent on population, and not just you. That’s why I wrote the entry. As far as I’m concerned, the vindication of talent hinges on one or two wild successes, and if nobody cares where those persons come from, then immigration provides a very, very quick and satisfying fix.

    I don’t think talent and population problems are entirely related. In fact I think they’re very separate indeed. Isn’t that a “postulate”? My postulate is that vindication of talent programmes in the real world are defined in terms of a relatively small number of successes, rather than population critical mass.

    My entire post was built on the assertion that it’s not necessarily true; if anything it was my very first consideration. In fact you’re the one who is a diehard for your talent-and-population correlation without justification.

    To me your first consideration was your immediate leap to defence of your cherished law of the world: that talent and numbers have some magical, mighty force holding them together, like dust bunnies and solar wind. If you’re going to tell me I’m wrong, fine. I’m at an age where I don’t mind learning something new. But you have to explain why the correlation you and everybody else treasures so much works. In human-readable language. I certainly have offered mine, and in one sentence.

    As a commentary on population, god, I couldn’t give a rat’s. I think it’s too technical but that doesn’t mean nobody will appreciate it. But as a rant built directly upon your flawed and incorrect reading of my post (and I assume it is, for good reasons), well, I think that’s despicable.

    When I demand for an apology, it’s got nothing to do with being right or wrong. Even if I think you’re wrong I don’t ask you to apologise for being wrong; you take me to be some kind of idiot. You may well be right, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t apologise. You have mutilated my opinion, simple as that. I know my opinion better than you do. Even if you don’t want to apologise you should at least admit you read it incorrectly, or better, that you didn’t.

    Warrior Man: I don’t think so, either. It was a poorly written summary.

  9. twostepsfromtwilight said

    And no, I do not “now understand”. You seem to overestimate your ability to explain something in simple language.

  10. Anonymous said

    It is interesting to see the Big Brother’s strategies in managing the blogosphere.
    If I were the author, I will just ignore their comments.
    They often go off-tangent and are not worth the time responding to.

  11. man on the street said

    The brotherhood makes too much sense. That’s the frightening part, if they cont at this pace, they will eventually be the dominant voice in blogosphere. Their leader, the man they call “darkness” has obviously given them a directive to project beyond their underground gaming activities. They are powerful because they have so many professionals in their ranks, so they are able to tap into resources at a press of a button.
    This is not the work of a loose band of geeks. They are too slick, measured and ruthless. It’s a seige machine.With it’s own ranking system, it’s own language and I fear own agenda for blogosphere.After the Mr Brown incident, I think the leaders believe they can no longer continue to ignore blogosphere, it must be something to do with protecting either their economic or technological interest. We in blogosphere must unite against this menace. If we are divided they will eventually prevail.

  12. anon said

    They remind me of the guy who wore his knuckle-dusters and waited for his opponents in a cul-de-sac.

    Their mission seems to be bent on silencing the blogosphere with very sleek gahmen talk. I give it to them for that.

    Unfortunately, they are fighting a right war in a wrong place and missing the real battle by a yard.

    Big brother is old and not too sharp anymore.

  13. Whybegay said

    Inspir3d,

    you have got to censure your sis(Anon) a little, she’s getting a little unbecoming with all her personal attacks and rude remarks here and in Gayle Goh’s blog by saying Gayle’s a Fake. haha

    “On Comments
    Comments containing obscenities, profanities, seditious or racist remarks, and *personal attacks* will be edited or *deleted* at the *discretion* of the *webmaster*”

    So biased. tsk tsk

  14. Whybegay said

    Defamation and denigration charges are on the way for her..jk hahaha 😛

  15. inspir3d said

    “So biased. tsk tsk”

    yes. and maybe i should let the spam checker continue to censor you indiscriminately.

  16. whybegay said

    Don’t get me wrong, I meant you being biased with Anon’s (your sis) childish personal attacks with the government, saying that LHL should cry like his father to gather more support duh =P

  17. whybegay said

    Before you or anyone even think that I have made personal attacks, allow me to explain the meaning of “personal attack”.

    A personal attack is directed to a *particular person* in a disparaging or offensive sense or manner, usually involving character, behavior, appearance, etc

    Therefore I have not made any personal attacks, but your sis had. 😛

  18. inspir3d said

    what makes u think Anon is my sis?

  19. whybegay said

    My deduction is solely based on the correlation of many well-established and self-devised complex psychological and mathematical theories, not on any cheap hard data from some “cyber threat centre”(like I would bother rather than watch tv). Call it psychic or the “gift of knowing”, I often know people more than they know themselves. But you are gladly welcome to prove to yourself that I am wrong, if you need to.

  20. whybegay said

    Was the name of the Brotherhood inspired by the 18th century french myth, The Beast of Gevaudan, which was a terrorising wolf-like beast devil?

    Or was it inspired by the fictitious stories of The Red Riding Hood or The Three Little Pigs, both of which were terrorised by a cunning wolf?

  21. whybegay said

    I have already answered Qn 18, in case it got lost in cyberspace or you decided to censor and delete it. Other people’s comments appear instantly, yet my takes forever to appear, so unfair!

  22. chronicler of the book of ages said

    Greetings FC boys,

    – How goes the marriage bureau of the
    brotherhood? Tell me does yr cosca
    still have a monopoly over the flesh
    trade? If you want to retain your
    lucrative monoply you will comply.

    – “Downshifting” I am impressed. I
    dont want to come across as rude,
    was it you or brother darkness who
    modelled this construct?

    A message capsule has been sent to
    the council. They want the FC boys
    to make sure this is to be made
    known to the MSM.

    We want to see a publication within
    3 weeks in the real world.

    Tell me, would women and men who
    choose not to get married be
    considered downshifters?
    brother darkness always used math.
    Where is the math on this? The
    council is interested to understand
    more on this phenomenon. Message
    capsule us – Trully brilliant.that
    is an order.

    – Harphoon Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 11:29 pm

    Your request for inclusion has been
    denied – bfr the esteemed darkness
    departed for PRC. The father of the
    game sold us a time travel machine.
    He deliberately erased himself from
    the game – yes FC boys, he betrayed
    all of you.

    Your request for inclusion will
    conflict an existing page in the
    future some 60 years from today.

    Obey us, we know the FC boys are an
    unruly lot who only swears loyalty
    to brother darkness – this we
    admire – the 100 utlra brothers,
    but I say stand down, lets be
    practical.

    A great sum of money was paid to
    ensure his departure – you are naive
    harphoon to believe he lefted on his
    own accord. He did not.

    – This meeting with the pressclub –
    yr application has been denied for
    security reasons – the thing
    sinister is lurking somewhere – make
    other arrangements and spare no
    expense in wooing the favor of the
    press. Throw in a few clever eye
    candies – it always works with them.

    We keep our friends close to us, but
    we must keep our enemies closer.

    I have asked the interspacing guild
    to extend the FC boys every courtesy
    in this area.

    – btw what a waste of a brilliant mind
    that darkness. The father of the
    game finally who played himself out
    of his own game – prosaic?

    Obey this by order of the council of
    the wise. Primus directive order
    908-5853 AL

    Guardian of the book of ages

    Sarr-har-bath

  23. whybegay's sister said

    I think that’s a very personal attack on Inspir3d. I’m another anon here.

  24. anon said

    I am here 🙂

  25. inspir3d said

    “Other people’s comments appear instantly, yet my takes forever to appear, so unfair!”

    whybegay, i suggest you change your handle to something else, like wbg – the spam checker seems to like you a lot.

  26. sphgal said

    Perhaps one of the gallant FC boys would pass us some of their material on “downshifting”.

    Yes, it will definitely make a nice article and I must say all of you are terribly intelligent because it’s starting to make sense now.

    I am not just saying this to impress the FC boys, but I truly believe all of you have struck a very original line of thought to explain the problem of declining birthrates.

    Bfr I leave, I just want to ask one question. The garmen say they understand why sg’s dowan babies, but how does this compare with nations who have successfully reversed the decline in birthrates. Why dont our gahmen look at these approaches. Why do they resort to the FT’s approach.

    Another thing, I know the brotherhood is very smart and all that, but please try to be diplomatic to the rest of the blogging community – I am sad for one to see Mr Wang and twilight have lost much of their lustre after being ceremoniously defanged by the seige machine of the brotherhood – I sincerely hope you boys will pay more attention to the PR aspect of your stay here. Cheerio

  27. Interesting site…

    So many intelligent singaporeans too. In my simple opinion, we can argue till the cows come home, the reality is; we have no choice.

    Singapore can’t afford to give its people any choice. Take it or leave it. They can’t shut down the system and reboot! Cold turkey solutions are hard to swallow for citizens and costs politicians votes as well.

    Yes, PR aspect is very important in Singapore. For the government as well as whatever machine we have. We don’t want them to become obsolete and breakdown.

  28. deep blue said

    Brotherhood or whoever is on duty,

    Mmmmmh very interesting theory, I must say. I was pleasently surprised by the detail and it does explain why the legal profession is languishing.

    I also agree bfr one can really evaluate the merit of the govt FT’s strategy, it is first necessary to get a feel of why it is so difficult for sg couples to procreate.

    I am did read somewhere countries like France and Sweden have both been very successful in reversing the trend of declining birth rates. I know sphgal has asked why we are not doing the same, but I would like to add a twist to the same question by asking further. Are there any social/economic implications to pursuing a strategy to reverse the decline in birthrates?

    Another question brotherhood, granted the economic value of babies cannot be considered without taking into account their parents. Only it still doesnt answer the question what is the economic value of a 40yr FT? Are you saying our govt isnt really interested in him, but rather his offsprings?

    Finally, this darkness fellow mentioned in his earlier post something abt a soviet glass factory. I am sorry to have to press further, but I dont really see the connection. Is he saying it is useless for the govt to control people using statistics. Because this is what it seems to me, but then again, that sounds like a contradiction in terms, because if we dont use stats, then what use are KPI’s. If this sounds like a chicken and egg question, it is. Pls clarify.

    To add on the last part of sphgal post. I really dont think, personally, at least the brotherhood has been rude. Infact, it is people like Mr Wang who have been quite disruptive. I agree for many years no one, it seems has really challenged him, not as pointedly as the brotherhood has at least. This has been him slightly arrogant and his response has been simply to avoid the brotherhood, which I feel says alot abt his post, since he is not even prepared to defend what he says. At least the brotherhood gave him a chance to reply, he egged it up with his silly attempt to come across as sanctimonious and doughty.

    Keep the good work up IS, I shall most definitely keep this site in my fav of sites!

    Dr S.H Pang

  29. deep blue said

    Dear Man in the street,

    I am sorry but I think you give them too much credit. Yes, they are all gamers in an underground game, but they are hardly the freemasons or opus dei (or are you brotherhood?).

    Besides we are all logical and mature ppl here. I have never supported anyone simply because of who they are. You can say personalities are irrelevant, but I have often supported points of views and opinions which do make sense.

    If you really want to unite as you say and fight this “menace”, then why dont you engage them logically, bc from what I am seeing at least, they are seem to doing exactly that and if you believe by deploying insults, disparaging comments and open ended comments will in any way undermine their credibility. You are simply very wrong.

    Fight them yes, but let us all use our minds instead of our ego.

  30. mrt said

    Deep blue, I dont think u understand the sentiment of ppl in blogoshpere. No one has a grudge against the brotherhood. Yes of course, there are a few like Joseph who calls them trolls and he doesnt we care to elaborate further. But I think the vast majority of folk simply dont know what is the agenda of the brotherhood. We all know why we are here, but we dont know why they are here. They were not here some 2 or 3 yrs ago, they only appeared after the Brown saga. So ppl r naturally suspicious.

    Pls do not get me wrong, I think their presence is a good thing in blogoshpere bc they do come across as a persuasive lot, and. I must say they do one thing most of us dont typically feel the need to do in blogosphere, they really think thru the debate before opening their mouths.

    Only if they loose all that brotherhood and secret society speech, I just feel netizens will be more likely to embrace them, but then again, if they do tat, they wouldnt be called – the brotherhood.

  31. wbg said

    So am I wrong?

  32. Harphoon said

    1. Greetings FC boys,
    – How goes the marriage bureau of the
    brotherhood? Tell me does yr cosca
    still have a monopoly over the flesh
    trade? If you want to retain your
    lucrative monoply you will comply.
    (we are well. It is not a monopoly, but rather a concession, remember, pls refer to council meet 39932 resolution 13(2) – do try to alter the terms of our concession, we will see you in LS)
    – “Downshifting” I am impressed. I
    dont want to come across as rude,
    was it you or brother darkness who
    modelled this construct?
    A message capsule has been sent to
    the council. They want the FC boys
    to make sure this is to be made
    known to the MSM.
    We want to see a publication within
    3 weeks in the real world.
    Tell me, would women and men who
    choose not to get married be
    considered downshifters?
    brother darkness always used math.
    Where is the math on this? The
    council is interested to understand
    more on this phenomenon. Message
    capsule us – Trully brilliant.that
    is an order.
    (No that is not an order, the FC boys do not come under the preview of either the Imperium or Praetorium – we are the Sadaherin and so we have our own chain of command. The proponent of the downshifting theory was darkness, though I fleshed out most of the concepts. We will message capsule you on the details. As for the msm, we need to know why, bfr proceeding)
    – Harphoon Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
    Your request for inclusion has been
    denied – bfr the esteemed darkness
    departed for PRC. The father of the
    game sold us a time travel machine.
    He deliberately erased himself from
    the game – yes FC boys, he betrayed
    all of you.
    Your request for inclusion will
    conflict an existing page in the
    future some 60 years from today.
    (I demand an explanation. My request for inclusion cannot be denied unless there is a precedent anomaly in the time parallax – time travel machine? We all know it’s impossible, even the father of game said so. I demand to see evidence. Existing page? I just checked the online update, no such entry was logged for earth time: 2066! – pls message capsule me on the update. Otherwise I will have to take the matter directly to the Council)
    Obey us, we know the FC boys are an
    unruly lot who only swears loyalty
    to brother darkness – this we
    admire – the 100 utlra brothers,
    but I say stand down, lets be
    practical.
    (A state of peace exist between us, you have my word on this)
    A great sum of money was paid to
    ensure his departure – you are naive
    harphoon to believe he lefted on his
    own accord. He did not.
    (I know him better than you.)
    – This meeting with the pressclub –
    yr application has been denied for
    security reasons – the thing
    sinister is lurking somewhere – make
    other arrangements and spare no
    expense in wooing the favor of the
    press. Throw in a few clever eye
    candies – it always works with them.

    We keep our friends close to us, but
    we must keep our enemies closer.

    I have asked the interspacing guild
    to extend the FC boys every courtesy
    in this area.
    (interspacing guild???? You mean we have to go on another cruise on that death trap? No fear, we have our own luxury yacht, pls tell them, thanks but no thanks- as for the thing sinister our scanners detect them as well.)
    – btw what a waste of a brilliant mind
    that darkness. The father of the
    game finally who played himself out
    of his own game – prosaic?
    (Prosaic? Yes, I must say so, but only bc both you and I have also played ourselves out the game – he will do good in his new teaching job in Beijing)
    Obey this by order of the council of
    the wise. Primus directive order
    908-5853 AL
    (908-5853 AL applies only to the standard orderly citizenry of Primus, as I have stated we are the Sadaherin – we only take orders from darkness)
    Guardian of the book of ages
    Sarr-har-bath

  33. Harphoon said

    I am going in for a conference call, I will try to address the rest of the questions this evening. If not someone else will – bye for now.

  34. catwoman said

    “Downshifting” I admit is a good term to use to explain our declining birth rate. For one it seems to explain most things quite well.

    I for one feel our gahmen hasn’t really put enough effort in creating a baby friendly environment.

    I realize there is the baby package in the form of financial perks, rebates etc.

    However, this does not in any way address the serious problem of why so many working mums still spend so much time in the office.

    As for single women, most of them hardly lead a balance life, so they dont even get the opportunity to met guys.

    I would like to see govt dept and GLC’s making a genuine effort to create a trully baby friendly working environment.

    This may mean allowing employees to work from home. flexi – time and HR policies which are family orientated.

    I think unless our govt does all these things they cannot really claim they have done everything possible to reverse the trend.

  35. wbg said

    To Whybegay’s Sister,

    No it’s not.

  36. So childish!

    Sue each other in the courts … and settle/celebrate it the Singapore way!

  37. We have not been having enough babies since 1980s and with opportunities provided by globalisations, many Singaporeans and families have emigrated. I believe this resulted in the shortage in workforce and the problem is further aggravated because there are some jobs that Singaporeans are more reluctant to take up. I think these are the reasons that prompted the government to relax immigration. Singaporeans have been ‘poached’ by other countries which resulted in our brain-drain. We can’t continue to have outflow and thus we need to have inflow by having immigrants. Maybe our emigration number is much larger now and thus prompted the further relaxation of immigration. I don’t think immigration is relaxed because the government has a fetish for foreigners.

    It is true that companies in Singapore mostly don’t have pro-family policies. With us marrying later due to longer time spent in education (for men, add national service), more hectic work stress, smaller HDB units etc, too many factors are contributing to the declining birthrate.

    Accepting more foreigners, only address the current problem but it is a short-term solution. To address the real factors causing declining birthrate, much is needed to be done and long-term solutions are required.

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