Brief Synopsis – The Great Debate in Chernobyl!
Posted by intellisg on May 4, 2007
As you all know another great debate will be held on the 6th of May this coming Sunday at an earlier time of 8.00pm (Singapore time).
Please understand this is a “LIVE” debate brought exclusively only on the Intelligent Singaporean in Singapore.
The topic of the debate is,
“What is 2 X 2? Or, how should do we maximize our resources to carve out a competitive advantage in today’s world?”
Having said that all great debates proceed according to the Socratic conversational style, so we cannot assure you for certain the debaters will keep strictly to the topic. It will just go wherever it goes.
Central to the whole theme will be a post that darkness made in Aaron’s blog. I shall insert it here for your perusal:
Darkness Apr 26, 2007 at 5:46 pm
“If you understand a construct precisely in one way, say what does the word “understanding” mean? It’s a difficult word because no sooner do you claim you understand it. You run straight into a philosophical hall of mirrors.
Here’s what I think “understanding” really means and I will try my level best to gut out the jargon. Most of us know how to add, subtract and multiply numbers. It’s a language of sorts to express the size, quantity or volume and how they may behave under a given set of conditions.
So if I asked you what is 2 times 2, you will say 4, that’s the traditional benchmark of “understanding” in the traditional sense. But if I asked you what do you “understand” from this video (and pls take yr time bc if you miss this part. I will lose you!) :
Now again what is 2 times 2? Now we are all in Babeland. Here the familiar is taken away and replaced by the alien – so again, what do you understand?
So if you understand something in only one way, then I claim you don’t understand it at all: you know it by rote i.e. like a monkey trained to pick coconuts or a parrot repeating meaningless words. Where is the value added there?
So you could even say that what you consider to be understanding in this 2 times 2 context is a product of memorization or mugging. You don’t really understand it not at the level of abstraction that allows you to comfortably manipulate it or imagine how it would behave under a set of parametric conditions. Again where is the value added there?”
Dr Chandra’s response is as follows:
Dr Chandra / Imperial College Mafia Forum / London Apr 26, 2007 at 7:05 pm“By now all of you have probably read darkness’s hocus pocus. All I can say is what he saying again is just delightful rubbish. The truth of the matter is this, darkness wants us to believe there are many ways to perceive the world and there is actually value in pursuing this approach of infinite multitudes.
Well I can only say this, it does accord well with what is actually happening in the real world. I am afraid if anything has endless interpretations and meanings. It just means for lack of a better word we, the human race haven’t really progressed to pin down anything, let alone what 2×2 really means. All it really does is cause confusion and takes us further away from the truth.
I’m serious. In the real world, if you have a table and somebody puts an elephant on it, it might break. That won’t happen in the virtual world because the table knows it’s a table and its job is to support something. If it breaks, it’s not because it wore out or got dirty, but because it exceeded its design parameter.
So in the virtual or mathematical absolute world, everything has a purpose, assuming the programmer had one. In the real world nothing has a purpose except we try to make purposeless things do the best they can for us. And that’s why the world is a mess – because the likes of darkness continues to spout his delightful poetic rubbish from time to time.
I’d rather fashion the real to the virtual world than to live in darkness abstraction of multitudes where anything can be a hundred billion things or nothing at all. Really I do not see how this sort of logic contributes to clear thinking let alone anything resembling progress.” End.
Doors will close at 8.15 pm sharp! And please remember it will be steaming radioactive hot! So get on down there by just appearing and reading on the thread we guarantee you all a radioactive blast! You all be glowing happily after that!
Please note there will be a one hour question time after the session and ladies will be allowed to present their case before the debaters.
Nacramanga (Chairperson of the Great Debate)
(The Great Hall Debate / Chernobyl / EP – Non Specified / The Brotherhood Press 2007)
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